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I guess if it is not a huge area it would not be too bad but if you are turning a couple acres that would create a lot of unnecessary work. I take a shovel and dig a sample up then feel it, if it breaks up kinda like bagged top soil it is ready.If it is sticky, (too wet).If it breaks up into fine granules, (too dry).Running too dry kinda tears up the share and moldboard.Too wet just makes huge clods and pulls hard on the tractor waisting fuel and working the equipment hard.I usually disk after turning or run a pulverizer over it if it lays in the sun for a couple days. We just got a plow for the 820 with 4 14s and it really breaks up the ground quick. It is actually small for the tractor so it does not bog at all regardless of soil conditions. The A will pull it but slowly, it is made for 3 14s in decent soil so we have a 3 bottom for that. I sold the ripper we had due to everything we plow is already tilled so we did not need it anymore and I got twice what we had in it after a paint job and decals, it was JD so it brought good money with a lift cylinder ……Jon
________________________________ From: Larry Goss
What? Do you mean you can’t just plow whenever and where ever you want regardless of soil conditions? 
You’ve seen my neighbor’s garden plot, Jon. He has a really good tiller to help him with the soil prep, but still insists on turning the ground over every spring with a Ford 9N. He “knows” that I have a counter-rotating tiller for the Case/IH tractor that would do the job for him, and we could do it when the soil is right instead of doing it willy-nilly. But no, he’d rather have it plowed when the ground is too wet and then fight with the clods of dirt for weeks. It’s part of his spring ritual.
Larry
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In the historical movies of Red-E and Power king, there are several sequences showing plow operations in central Wisconsin. One of the disturbing things I noticed about them is that there appears to be no attempt to make sure the soil is right before they started filming. I’m not much of a farmer, but I do know THAT. If you want a good description of the pride that used to be expressed about plowing, re-read Michner’s “Centennial”.
Larry
Well this is good ole Ga. red clay and I mean red. Just has soil sample done and it said not to fertilize it was fine. Just have to add matter to break it up. It was broken last year and this spring so I turn it over and till it with a craftsman tiller(all day job) then plant. So unless I make it bigger it should work with the spot I have.
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 11:54:39 AM
In the historical movies of Red-E and Power king, there are several sequences showing plow operations in central Wisconsin. One of the disturbing things I noticed about them is that there appears to be no attempt to make sure the soil is right before they started filming. I’m not much of a farmer, but I do know THAT. If you want a good description of the pride that used to be expressed about plowing, re-read Michner’s “Centennial”.
Larry
Hellow guys Im new to this site but I love it. Ive read every post since I joined. Im gettng quite and education . I have a 14 horse PK with a mower deck and that is the project for the winter as soon as i return from nova scotia. I had to laugh at the remark as to when the doil was redy . On the farm in Iowa as a kid my dad would say and I quote ….The soil is black the sky is blue and if the 8n dont get stuck in it its redy to plow….
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 11:14:42 AM
I guess if it is not a huge area it would not be too bad but if you are turning a couple acres that would create a lot of unnecessary work. I take a shovel and dig a sample up then feel it, if it breaks up kinda like bagged top soil it is ready.If it is sticky, (too wet).If it breaks up into fine granules, (too dry).Running too dry kinda tears up the share and moldboard.Too wet just makes huge clods and pulls hard on the tractor waisting fuel and working the equipment
hard.I usually disk after turning or run a pulverizer over it if it lays in the sun for a couple days. We just got a plow for the 820 with 4 14s and it really breaks up the ground quick. It is actually small for the tractor so it does not bog at all regardless of soil conditions. The A will pull it but slowly, it is made for 3 14s in decent soil so we have a 3 bottom for that. I sold the ripper we had due to everything we plow is already tilled so we did not need it anymore
and I got twice what we had in it after a paint job and decals, it was JD so it brought good money with a lift cylinder ……Jon
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 9:25:54 AM
What? Do you mean you can’t just plow whenever and where ever you want regardless of soil conditions?
You’ve seen my neighbor’s garden plot, Jon. He has a really good tiller to help him with the soil prep, but still insists on turning the ground over every spring with a Ford 9N. He “knows” that
I have a counter-rotating tiller for the Case/IH tractor that would do the job for him, and we could do it when the soil is right instead of doing it willy-nilly. But no, he’d rather have it plowed when the ground is too wet and then fight with the clods of dirt for weeks. It’s part of his spring ritual.
Larry
If it was tuned already it should go like butter….Jon
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 4:25:48 PM
Well this is good ole Ga. red clay and I mean red. Just has soil sample done and
it said not to fertilize it was fine. Just have to add matter to break it up. It
was broken last year and this spring so I turn it over and till it with a craftsman tiller(all day job) then plant. So unless I make it bigger it should work with the spot I have.
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 11:54:39 AM
In the historical movies of Red-E and Power king, there are several sequences showing plow operations in central Wisconsin. One of the disturbing things I noticed about them is that there appears to be no attempt to make sure the soil is right before they started filming. I’m not much of a farmer, but I do know THAT. If you want a good description of the pride that used to be expressed about plowing, re-read Michner’s “Centennial”.
Larry
The Foxfire books give a lot of good info also…..Jon
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 10:54:39 AM
In the historical movies of Red-E and Power king, there are several sequences showing plow operations in central Wisconsin. One of the disturbing things I noticed about them is that there appears to be no attempt to make sure the soil is right before they started filming. I’m not much of a farmer, but I do know THAT. If you want a good description of the pride that used to be expressed about plowing, re-read Michner’s “Centennial”.
Larry
Ah ha you’ve never been aroung Georgia red clay, it repacks in 30 days for real, all it needs is a little rain and wham bricks all again. lol
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 8:59:59 AM
If it was tuned already it should go like butter….Jon
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 4:25:48 PM
Well this is good ole Ga. red clay and I mean red. Just has soil sample done and
it said not to fertilize it was fine. Just have to add matter to break it up. It
was broken last year and this spring so I turn it over and till it with a craftsman tiller(all day job) then plant. So unless I make it bigger it should work with the spot I have.
________________________________ href=”mailto:PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com”>PowerKingTractors@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 11:54:39 AM
In the historical movies of Red-E and Power king, there are several sequences showing plow operations in central Wisconsin. One of the disturbing things I noticed about them is that there appears to be no attempt to make sure the soil is right before they started filming. I’m not much of a farmer, but I do know THAT. If you want a good description of the pride that used to be expressed about plowing, re-read Michner’s “Centennial”.
Larry
Correct on Georgia red clay. Larry from Georgia
You folks have never worked in black gumbo. Too wet then when the clods dry sounds like rocks in the tiller and they don’t break up. Too dry is like tilling concrete. We have a fine line also of when you can work the soil. Tough not living where there is good dirt as much as we like to play in it. :-) Rod
Wish I had some real dirt to play in. All we got down here is Sand. Got an hour or so seat time yesterday on The Mitsui. Tilling up most bestest friends’s fall garden. Did not look much different when I finished than it did when I started.